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I would like to hear our coach say something other than "Oh the other team played great" "Oh we've got to get better" "Oh, I was pleased with Jay's performance"
Everyone has written off the Broncos. We have a four-game losning streak, and we're backed into a corner. We seem content to just take a seat in the corner. Most teams would probably be ready to tear someone's head off right now.
I think Shanahan has lost the ability to motivate this team. I can't handle hearing the same crap all the time, imagine how the players feel.
Hey DW.. you ARE NOT in Champs class or universe, stop talking a game you dont have! Time would be better served having Toast shut up and concentrate on making plays
( that means being in position, not biting on every first move and ask Coyer to roll some help your way).
Mathias in New Mexico
Native Coloradan and I miss all of you South Standers!! Where is the never say die spirit?
*Larry Coyer...pressure Leinhart, rattle him, disguise the coverage, let the Broncos defensive presence be known again!
Stop hating on Darrent Williams. He is one of the top cornerbacks to ever play for the Broncos. Any other previous CB would have made many more mistakes. Would you rather have Darrent? Or go back to Deltha? Walls? Roc? Tory? Crockett? Gordon? Braxton?
Darrent's better than them all.
The lack of pressure on the opposing QB allows the receivers to stretch the field, and find the gaps. Those gaps appear in the middle of the field for short to medium range passes, and along the left side for medium to long range passing. Williams is not Champ, no one is. He can shut down an entire side of the field. You’re not going to find another corner in the league that can do that. If you give the receivers 5, 6, 7 seconds to stretch the secondary, those receivers will find the open lanes. That even happens to Champ from time to time.
This Denver secondary is one of the finest in the league. But, if you give any good QB time to throw the ball, they will find the open man, and against the Broncos that is away from Champ. The Broncos continue to stop the run, they are very good against the quick passing game, but it’s the 5 and 7 step drops, and shotgun formations that are beating the Broncos. If you can’t force the QB to throw early, then the receivers are able to stretch the defense, and settle into the open lanes, allowing a good QB to hit an open target, often for good yardage.
I think he means that some guys might be hanging their heads because of the losing streak. THis is alot like the John Kerry story saying he called the troops stupid for being stuck in Iraq when he didn't mean any such thing.
Its just the stupid media looking for a story where their isn't one.
Darrent has a tough job playing opposite Bailey. He is bound to give up some plays with so many balls thrown his way.I know people are saying this already and I agree.
I dont like him on punts, he seems to run backwards more than forword. I think I would use Rod Smith on punts, he is old but he still can catch and run up field for positive yds.
Cutler. Stop the hate talk and support your team!!! I like Cutler and I support my team no matter what, and you all should do the same. If you're a Plummer fan you can follow him to his next destination. If you're a Broncos fan, then I expect you to stop critisizing and start encouraging our very promising rookie QB.
Go Cutler!!!!
Go Broncos!!!!!
PA Broncos Fan!!!!
Just to ease your concerns, I was born and raised an orange bleeding, south stand freezing, die hard Bronco fan and will remain one till the day I die. I've been there from Floyd Little to TD, from Haven Moses to the Three Amigos, and yes Kathy, from Morton to John. Have you??
And by the way, it isnt "just a few catches" we are talking about here. It is a match up weakness that every team we play is licking thier chops to exploit.
Yes a better pass rush, (or A pass rush for that matter),would certainly help and no corner can cover for 10-15 seconds. Fair enough, but fire up yout Tivo and see just how many HUGE plays #27 gives up due to soft coverage, lack of height and terrible positioning. And then you act like your the second coming of Louis Wright??? ( He used to play CB for us too.)
If you still cant see it, ask Peyton, Rivers or any OC in the leauge. Guarantee you they do.
Getting killed by Manning and Wayne, I'll give him a pass. But getting beat in the endzone by Rivers and the Chargers, getting beat again deep by Hasselback and fumbling the kick return resulting in Al Wilson getting taken off the field on a stretcher, and getting beat down again by the Chargers this past week, how does this guy have a job. He can't hide anymore, every coach knows he's the weak point of the secondary. All players get beat at some point. Even Champ Bailey proved he's from the planet earth like the rest of us when he couldn't make that pick against Gates in the endzone. But week after week, quarter after quarter Darrent Williams gets beat and all I see him do is talk trash and try to defer blame. Darrent its way past time for a reality check and you should feel lucky that you have a job. Let's hope J Cutler can mature fast enough to put enough points on the board to cover all the points you'll be giving up the rest of the season. Go Broncos!!!
Go Darrent!
Go Cutler!
Go defensive line!
Beat Arizona!
In the meantime I can see no reason why the Broncos can't beat Arizona and San Francisco and Cinncinati is not unbeatable.
To all Bronco fans, do you actually believe if we get to the playoffs, we could win a game or two? Look at our games against good teams, not good.
JC is a rookie, the running game suspect, the pass rush stinks, the pass defense is weak and special teams just plain awfull. Stop pumping your self up for a huge disappointment. I speak from experience. Let Cutler get his snaps, let the brass pick up some talent and enjoy the draft. Don't let this 2006 team break your heart. This season is over.
ft. collins
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Go Broncos!!!!
Broncos nation in Washington state.
I will give D. Willams credit though, he picks himself up and plays through the shame of being beaten like a nakid step child every week. Takes nerve to show up after being constantly exposed and whipped. He must feel like that 90 lb weakling at the beach getting sand kicked in his face. First thing he needs to do is, NOT BITE so hard on the first move. Those receivers are toying with him like a baby, sticking out the candy but pulling it away. But he never learns.
D. Williams may get better in the future, but he has only shown consistency at one thing this year...at getting beaten.
D. Williams needs to look at himself in the mirror...better yet, look at the game film from the San Diego loss and he will see how he got burnt NUMEROUS times. In fact, I consider him to be the weakest link on that defense.
The guy gets turned around in coverage(evident by the way he got twisted into a pretzel by the Charger receivers) and is made to look like a fool on a weekly basis.
I cannot believe this guy has the nerver to talk about his teammates when HE´s the biggest question mark on that defense!
It was a HUGE mistake drafting this kid. First and forememost, he is TOO SHORT. Look at the SD game once again and you will see how an extra 2-3 inches of reach may have helped him bat away a pass or two.
You could have Reggie White, Bruce Smith and Mean Joe Greene on that front line and D. Williams will STILL GET BURNT! He is TERRIBLE.
I honestly think that we are in HUGE trouble for the next few years and I primarily blame the secondary. Sure, Champ is Hall of Fame material, but that doesn´t mean you can throw in any Ol´ Joe opposite of him and everything will be OK.
Shanahan needs to eat crow and move D. Williams in a trade, as he did with several other CB busts and try to pick up someone off the trade, or free agency wire. Whomever we get cannot possibly be as bad as D. Williams!
How can D. Williams say ANYTHING when he is THE SINGLE BIGGEST waste on this team!
In all my years as a Bronco fan I´ve yet to see ANY secondary player get burnt like this kid does. He is indeed lucky to have a job!
And I don´t want to hear about the defensive line. A resurrected Reggie White with Bruce Smith on the other side couldn´t help D. Williams look good!
I am so OUTRAGED by D. Williams´ play, now we have to hear him blame others!!! GIMME A BREAK!!!!!! The only reason we´re in this hole is because offensive coordinators started figuring out that DW is THE WEAKEST link in that defense. He´s quite possibly one of the worst starting CBs in the league.
In fact, I´ll take it a step further......in all of my 35 plus years watching football I cannot recall any one CB being picked on week after week, and offensive coordinators having their way with him!
The ONLY reason he starts is because Shanaha likes him and his so-called "agressive" play.
Don't give me AGRESSIVE! Give me COVERAGE! Yes, COVER YOUR GUY and don't get burnt week in, week out.
I am OUTRAGED! This latest DW issue is BY FAR the most disconcerting thing to happen to the Broncos all season.
Shanahan needs to move DW out of the team via trade as soon as the season is over. The guy FLAT OUT STINKS!
I wonder how long my manager would allow me to keep my job if week after week I fail to perform.
Here are the presequisites and the "catch phrases" one needs to have to fit into this category:
Big Ego, Score of 4 on the Wonderlink Test, All America Junior College Transfer (if college at all), At Least One Incident of Abuse on Record.
Not My Fault, Everyone is Out to Get Me, I Want More Money, I Don't Know How That Cocaine Got In My Car, So What if I've Got 6 Kids by 6 Different Women, Yeah My Gun is Licensed.
SEND A MESSAGE TO YOUR TEAM B4 IT'S TOO LATE. IF YOUR GONNA INSTILL A " BENCH EM IF THEY DONT PERFORM" POLICY, PUT SOME TEETH IN IT AND SIT THIS WANNA GANGSTA NOW!!
ALL TALK AND NO GAME, PIECE OF CRAP. SORRY, BUT IF WANTS TO TALK SMACK, LETS START IN THE MIRROR DW.
JAKE WASNT CUTTIN IT, FAIR ENOUGH, BUT HE IS A HALL OF FAMER AS A TEAMMATE AND PROFESIONAL. THIS PUNK COULD LEARN A LOT FROM HIM IN HOW TO CONDUCT YOURSELF WHEN THE GOING GETS ROUGH. YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY LIKE A MAN, YOU DONT CALL OUT TEAMMATES WHO ARE 1000 TIMES MORE GIFTED THAN YOU.
Darrent will never, ever be Champ, no one is- stop expecting him to be. ANYONE on the other side of Champ would be picked on and toasted, and made to look bad. Champ's probably the best corner we've seen yet (sorry Deion) so compared to him, *everyone* looks like a no-talent chump.
That being said, I'd sure like it if Darrent wasn't burned *quite* so often.
R U HIGH?? PUH-LEEEEEZE!!!
Crockett couldn't cover my mother OR her grandmother. He was the ORIGINAL "toast" on the Broncos.
and why dont elvis play more? he is the quickest d lineman on the team. the current line is old and slow so there's no pass rush. when any quarterback needed a third down throw they have an eternity to wait for the open guy.
LoL... Outraged... over a football game... whoo... I about fell over in my chair, laughing so hard... that's funny stuff... Take it to the comedy club, you could make a fortune.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not jumping off the bandwagon just yet. Champ got burned quite a bit last year and I remember thinking that was a crap trade. I don't think that way anymore. Give Darrent a break and let him do his job. He'll learn, or he'll be somewhere else, but I'd put money on the kid.
Sounds like we are addicted to a little bit more than just the Broncos. Cutler = Griese? How about this equation then: Broncoholic = moron. Go back to your own teams chatroom in Oakland. And please get off the sauce, your wifes back could use a break this holiday season.
I'll take Darien Gordon over Darrent Williams. At least gordon could return a punt for more than -2 yds.
Guess shanny played the right QB that week