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Matt - 6 of 9 / 54 Yds / 0 TD / 1 INT / RAT =43.1
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I think I'll go with Elway on this one. Man alive, some of you Bronco fans have some serious issues. The kid is good. In fact, he blows away the numbers in the same comparison of their second games in the NFL. What do you guys want. I liked Plummer just as much as the next guy; and I believe he was in a hairy situation this year, but Jay is putting up numbers that at least match some Jake's numbers this year, and a 10 yr vet shouldn’t have the same numbers as a guy in his second game ever. There is no way anyone can argue with that, so don’t try. How about this, the move has been made by someone that gets paid to do it, and we couldn't possible be in those shoes or we’d be there trust me, so let's all be good fans and show the rookie some support before we do to him what we did to Plummer. If you ask me, and no one ever does, we the fans put Plummer in this situation with all of our crap. If we the fans do this to Cutler, we don't have another QB to tear apart. The problems are problems as a team, not the QB's only. Enjoy!
Jake's time was up because he knuckled under the pressure of having a rookie looking over his shoulder (figuratively). It was obvious to Jake (and the whole team) that Cutler has a stronger and more accurate passing arm. QB's are not rated for their handoffs in this league. Jake has been a far cry short of last year's performance. He has been ranked almost last in the league in QB ratings all year. Doesn't this team deserve better?
Our current team has too many shortcomings to overcome to expect a championship this year. Why not let Cutler "cut his teeth" and get over the jitters this season, so he can be ready out the gate next season? Cutler has played well considering he's faced two tough Division champions in his first outings. It's not like he lost games to Detroit or Oakland.
Afterall, we're short a couple of great receivers, defensive linemen and a CB away for a complete team. Anything is possible in the NFL but you need to face it, this is not a superbowl quality team -Yet!
As for Cutler, the kid looks pretty good to me. Strong arm, fairly mobile and he looks like he's building a good playing relationship with some of other young players.
Give him time, he'll be a very QB with the potential to be great.
But Elway already said that...
Only a complete ignorant would say "Elway rode the Bronco’s to the Super Bowl, he never lead the Bronco’s to the Superbowl.'
That's about the funniest, most ignorant thing I've ever heard.
Elway rode the Broncos to the SB the same way Jordan rode Bill Cartwright to the NBA finals. Keep em coming Broncomania, we all need a good laugh now and again.
Personally, I'm excited with the mixture of young-raw talent and seasoned veteran leadership that our team has. We need a lot of work on special teams, Larry Coyer needs to be more agressive with his play calling, and Darrent Williams needs to play sound defense.
Just an optimistic Bronco fan in hawaii...Aloha!
I’m excited about Cutler and think Shannahan made the right decision. Our tight-end threat has been absent since Sharpe retired, and looking at Gates and Gonzales, we can see how a good tight end can help the running game and receivers. It’s not a coincidence LJ and LT have such success - who the heck do you cover? Every decision is wrong! During our Super Bowl years, there was no answer to the Broncos offense, as somebody was always open, or if they were somehow covered, nobody was there to stop TD. Without a dominant tight end and a QB who knows what to do with one, our offinsive has looked less dominant the past few years.
The future is bright for the Broncos. When Cutler gets comfortable, our offense will stay on the field longer, and the defense will be under less strain. His rocket arm will cause teams to back off of the line of scrimmage, opening up the run.
I don’t feel we can overpower the teams in the playoffs this year, especially on the road. Let San Diego have a Super Bowl, and next year, they’ll go the way of Puttsburgh, Seattle, the Raiders, and the other teams who spent it all to get there and had nothing left the next year. Sure, San Diego will still be good, but the hunger won’t be as strong. If San Diego falls short of the Super Bowl again, they’ll come back just as tough next year, and we don’t want that.
Just as long as Baltimore and New England don’t go to the Super Bowl…
We’ll have a good team for a long time. I’m more excited about the future of the team than I’ve been for years.
Denver is a Quarterback town, and I had a hard time getting behind a QB that scared the heck out of me every time he touched the ball. Many of our victories I feel came DESPITE Plummer, not because of Plummer. I never screamed at my tv so much with Elway or Griese at QB. Will Cutler make mistakes? Of course. But I don’t think he has weird panic/desperation mode that Plummer had that forced him into ill-advised ‘heroics’ that usually tended to back-fire more than they succeeded.
Go Broncos!!!
Go Cutler!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! LMFAO!!!! You are a retard. Elway was the only player on our offense for years. He ran for touchdowns, he threw for touchdowns, hell he even caught a touchdown... He would be known to pooch punt if needed. He had no O-line so-so receivers and average backs... He had to run for his flippin life every play. Get a clue please.
It is very difficult to win any games in the NFL, and it looks like enough Broncos have been injured this year that the team as a whole is going to struggle no matter who is playing quarterback. Just as Cutler's third quarter in San Deigo looked good, Plummer looked good and threw the ball well at times in the earlier part of the season. While the Broncos Coaches are some of the best, and I'm sure they know what they are doing replacing Plummer with Cutler, I wouldn't expect miracles and Superbowls out of either of them until the team is healthy and the Broncos can run the ball effectively again.
As has been discussed, John Elway was a great quarterback. Many would argue he is the best that has ever played, or at least one of them. Nevertheless, it took a great running back, a great offensive line, a hall of fame quality tight end, two good recievers, a great kicker, and an aggressive defense to win the superbowl. Many fans claim that Plummer played poorly in last year's AFC championship game. He did not win it by himself, that is certain. Nevertheless, compare the first few running plays from that game to, say, any game in the Broncos two years of superbowl victories - what is often lost is that the Broncos did not run the ball well in that game either. It's a team game.
So Elway is right - give Cutler some time to settle in. It takes a couple years of trying to put a team together to get a squad that has a chance to win the Superbowl.
Good luck to the Broncos this week! I hope the boys put it together and win one...
Jake will light it up quarterbacking another NFL team in the years to come, accruing statistics, victories, and Super Bowl championships.
Cheers!
To SC in #29. I was and am a Jake Plummer supporter. However, he played like a condemned man this season. When the pressure was on he couldn't deliver. We wouldn't be seeing Jay Cutler on the field if Jake had been able to handle the pressure of having a #1 draft choice sitting behind him. I'm afriad Jake folded like a cheap suit. I expected and hoped for more from Jake but he didn't deliver. If the Broncos are going to flounder around, lose games, miss the playoffs, or at best make an early first round exit from the playoffs we might as well see the future-in-training with Cutler. Quite frankly, I haven't seen the level of play by the offense be that much different with the rookie at the helm. He sure looks like he's going to be a great one.
Second comment, speaking of great ones. "Broncomania" is certainly not the shiniest spoon in the drawer or he's about 8 years old. John Elway played in 5 Super Bowls...3 more than the caliber of the rest of the team merited (broncomania, that means deserved). While the Bronco defense in those days was probably adequate, the offenses were truly mediocre. The only real player was Elway. Unfortunately, John couldn't carry them to a victory until he had another 52 players to go along with him. I have every game Elway played on video tape if broncomania would like to review the career of a Hall of Famer. Then tell me how he "rode" the Broncos to wins in two Super Bowls. Elway did things on a football field that I never seen before or since. The biggest obstacle to even more success on Elway's part was Dan Reeves. Reeves was so determined (read: hard-headed) to establish a weak running game that the Broncos would have to mount 4th-quarter comebacks every week. If Reeves had been a better evaluator of talent and could coach a wide-open passing game Denver might have won a couple of those old Super Bowls. If Joe Montana and John Elway had switched teams, the 49ers might not have ever lost a game, let alone a Super Bowl. I seriously doubt that even the great Montana could have carried those Bronco teams to Super Bowls and his bust would be absent in Canton.
So, broncomania, get a clue about what you're talking about before you open your pie hole, because you are certainly displaying your ignorance for the world to see. Three Super Bowl appearances with only one guy on offense should tell you something about that guy!!
Right, sure. And tell us, what color is the SKY on your planet?
Man, that Jakeraide sure must be T-A-S-T-Y to some.
Broncos will be fine. With Cutler having these next few games to hone his skills, it is looking very promising. He came in at such a hectic time, he has a lot of patience from where I am sitting. Leinhart and Young had a whole season behind them, Cutler has had a few games and still looks better than they have. I say back off, the kid is amazing. I have not lost faith in my broncos. Im stuck in hell New Orleans but watch the Broncos every Sunday. Im looking forward to this Cutler Era.
As Broncos fans we are spoiled. I live in Redskins country and they would kill to have a QB who won 50% of his games, let alone 75%.
However, Shanahan made the correct decision because he was going to make the switch next year anyway and knew the defense is too banged up to go anywhere in the playoffs (although there is still a good chance the Broncos will make the playoffs - check the remaining schedules of the 5 wild card contenders - below), so he decided to get the 'Kid' some experience now.
DEN @AZ, CIN, SF 18 - 22
CIN @IN, @DEN, PIT 23 - 17
JAC @TN, NE, @KC 22 - 18
KC @SD, @OAK, JAC 21 - 19
NYJ @MIN, @MIA, OAK 14 - 26
When you figure that failing to move the chains put the Broncos D on the field an extra 10 or so snaps per game, that had to have some effect, along with the crappy field their position "special" teams were giving up, that's not a recipie for long-term defensive success. Heck, some of the defensive injuries might have been avoided if the offense could have converted a few thrid downs and kept them off the field a little more.
Bronco fan in Vancouver
You made a statement that you know that if the broncos had made the playoffs with Jake they would not have gone deep in the playoffs and he could never win the super bowl..
That statement is just ridiculous stated like fact rather than opinion i hope you understand the difference.
Jake took them to the NFC championship game last year that is pretty deep
Manning cannot get his team to the super bowl..
Football is not all about the quarterback Jake is a winner
Will see if Jay will be..0-2 right now
I agree that the last game was not all Jays fault..
But the seattle loss is the result of cutler looking like a guy in his first game
I have nothing against cutler..he will be a fine quarterback
The issue was who should have started against seattle and for the remainder of the year that was jake..
Bad decision by shanny
Even if they make playoffs shanny does not evaluate talent well and his play calling is questionable
I live in arizona and i have season tickets seen all games.
If cutler cannot look like elway in this game then something is wrong..
There is more to quarterbacking than just having a rocket arm..
Also, winning the super bowl is about the team not the quarterback Baltimore ravens Trent Dilfer..1 super bowl win
Miami Dolphins Dan Marino 0 super bowl wins
Mister statistic himself Manning ) superbowls
Simms Two superbowl wins all about there defense and running game dare you to name one of there receivers.
And by the way, broncomania that was the dumbest post I ever saw.
Cutler is the Man, so STOP Crying about it...
Comment by chris — December 16, 2006 @ 11:47 pm
Hellz yeah, I yelled at the TV plenty when Griese was Den QB..But for you to act like you are a better evaluator of talent, than the man who drafted Terrell Davis and company..made Greise and Plummer Pro Bowl qb's and has won like 70 something percent of his games .all time..I will take the opinion of an insider, someone who is AT practice, see's all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes, and most of all..the guy who puts his azz on the line for making the decsion. Two SB rings don't lie..plz try and show some respect..face it ..Shanny knows more than you about football...